Glaze Protection from AI

LightBox Expo
30 Jan 202461:21

TLDRThis panel discussion, 'Glaze Protection from AI,' hosted by Mia Arahao, addresses the critical concerns of artists regarding the impacts of generative AI technologies like MidJourney, DALL-E, and Stable Diffusion. Speakers including John Lamb, Ben Jiao, Steven Zapata, and Carla Ortiz share their experiences and initiatives to safeguard creative works from being exploited by AI. They discuss tools like 'Glaze' and 'Nightshade,' designed to protect artist copyrights and distort AI training processes, highlighting the urgent need for protective measures in the digital age. The panel aims to empower artists to defend their rights and maintain control over their artistic outputs.


  • 🎨 The panel discussion, titled 'Glaze Protection from AI', focuses on the impact of generative AI on artists and the creative industry, addressing concerns about AI tools like MidJourney, DALL-E, and Stable Diffusion.
  • 🛡️ John Lamb, an advocate for artists' rights, initiated a significant movement with the hashtag #CreateDontScrape, aiming to create a safe space for artists to share their work without fear of AI exploitation.
  • 🔍 Panelists discuss the predatory nature of AI technologies that scrape and use artists' works without compensation, emphasizing the importance of recognizing the human effort behind artistic creations.
  • 🎓 Ben Jiao, a computer science professor, shares his journey from AI security to understanding the misuses of AI in art, highlighting his work on systems to protect against unauthorized use of AI.
  • 📢 The discussion reveals a community-wide effort among artists and technologists to advocate for protections and to educate the public and policymakers about the ethical use of AI in art.
  • 🔐 Carla Ortiz, a notable artist and plaintiff in a class action lawsuit against AI companies, discusses the misleading promises of generative AI and the need for it to operate ethically, respecting artists' rights.
  • 🤖 Steven Zapata points out the necessity of understanding how generative AI works, emphasizing the problematic nature of AI training methods that exploit vast amounts of scraped artistic content.
  • 💬 The panel introduces 'Glaze', a technological solution developed to protect artists' works from being exploited by AI models without hindering the visual integrity of the artworks.
  • 🚨 Ben explains the development of 'Nightshade', a more aggressive tool designed to disrupt AI training processes, potentially poisoning data that AI models train on if they use scraped content.
  • 🌐 The session highlights the importance of collective action and legal advocacy in shaping future policies and technological solutions to ensure fair and ethical use of AI in creative industries.

Q & A

  • What is the primary concern of the panel 'Create Don't Scrape: Glaze Protection against AI'?

    -The primary concern of the panel is the impact of generative AI technologies, like DALL-E, MidJourney, and Stable Diffusion, on artists and other industries. The panelists are advocating for measures to protect artists' rights and their works from being used by AI without consent.

  • Who is John Lamb and what triggered his involvement in the movement against generative AI?

    -John Lamb is described as a perpetual Twitter poster who became actively involved in the movement against generative AI after seeing the effects of these technologies on artists like Carla, Greg, Sam Yang, and Gregorowski. His advocacy gained significant attention after a tweet he made went viral, highlighting the human aspect of artists suffering from AI misuse.

  • What is 'Create Don't Scrape' and who initiated it?

    -Create Don't Scrape is a hashtag and movement initiated by John Lamb and his wife, Jen. It aims to create a safe space for artists to post their work online without fear of it being scraped by AI technologies for generative purposes.

  • What role does Ben Jiao play in the context of AI and its impacts?

    -Ben Jiao is a professor of computer science at the University of Chicago, specializing in AI security. Initially unfamiliar with the artistic implications of AI, his perspective changed after attending a town hall hosted by Carla. He's now involved in developing protective technologies like 'Glaze' to safeguard artists' works from unauthorized AI use.

  • How does Steven Zapata view the impact of AI on art and artists?

    -Steven Zapata, a designer and illustrator, views the advent of AI like DALL-E and Stable Diffusion as a significant stressor for artists, particularly his students. His engagement with AI issues led him to produce educational content aimed at defending artists' rights and advocating for proper regulations against AI misuse in the creative industries.

  • What legal actions has Carla Ortiz taken against the misuse of generative AI?

    -Carla Ortiz is a fine artist and illustrator who has taken significant legal steps against generative AI by becoming one of the first plaintiffs in a class-action lawsuit against companies like Stable Diffusion, DeviantArt, and Mid Journey. She argues that these companies' business models inherently require exploiting artists' works without compensation.

  • How does Glaze work to protect artists' creations?

    -Developed by Ben Jiao and his team, Glaze is a tool designed to make subtle changes to digital images that prevent AI models from accurately capturing and replicating the artist's style. It aims to disrupt AI training processes that rely on scraping artists' works without permission.

  • What is the argument against comparing AI tools like Photoshop to generative AI models?

    -Carla Ortiz argues that unlike traditional tools such as Photoshop which enhance an artist's capability without appropriating their work, generative AI models function by consuming and replicating existing creative works. This not only undermines original art but also misrepresents and potentially replaces the artists themselves in the market.

  • What are some ethical concerns raised about generative AI in the creative industries?

    -Ethical concerns include the unauthorized use of artists' works, the potential replacement of human-created art with AI-generated works, and the lack of compensation or recognition for artists whose works are used to train AI models. These concerns highlight the need for regulations that protect artists' intellectual property and creative integrity.

  • How has the conversation around AI and creativity changed according to the panel?

    -The conversation has evolved from not just discussing the technological capabilities of AI but also its profound ethical, legal, and social implications on creative industries. The panel reflects a growing awareness and mobilization among artists and academics to advocate for protections against the exploitative use of AI in art.



🎨 Introduction to the Panel on AI and Art Rights

The panel discussion begins with Mia Arahao introducing the topic of generative AI and its impact on artists, emphasizing the concerns of artists about posting their work online due to AI technologies like MidJourney, DALL-E, and Stable Diffusion. Panelists including John Lamb, Ben Jiao, Steven Zapata, and Carla Ortiz are introduced, each with their unique perspectives on AI's effects on the art world. John Lamb shares his initial personal response to AI's influence on art, catalyzing a movement to protect artists' rights, exemplified by his viral tweet and the creation of 'create don't scrape' hashtag and initiative.


🔍 Exploring AI Technology and Artist Advocacy

Steven Zapata discusses his journey into researching AI after his students expressed concerns, leading to his advocacy against image AI through a YouTube video. He highlights his subsequent involvement in advocacy groups, aiming to protect artists. Ben Jiao, a computer science professor, shares his transition from a focus on AI security to addressing AI misuses, inspired by realizations of AI's potential harms through community engagement. Carla Ortiz talks about her proactive steps in litigation against AI companies misusing artists' work and her advocacy efforts, including testimony before Congress to defend artists' rights.


🤖 Detailed Explanation of Generative AI's Mechanisms

Steven Zapata explains the functionality of generative AI, emphasizing its reliance on large datasets scraped from the internet, which include artists' works without permission. These datasets train AI to recognize and replicate artistic styles, often using the artists' names inappropriately. John Lamb highlights the exploitation of artists' styles by AI, underscoring the lack of compensation for artists whose work fuels AI models' capabilities, leading to significant valuation of AI companies without fair artist compensation.


🛡️ Distinguishing Generative AI from Other Technologies

Carla Ortiz addresses common comparisons of AI to past technologies like cameras or Photoshop, clarifying that unlike these tools, generative AI fundamentally relies on consuming and replicating the creativity of artists. She argues that this makes it unique and particularly harmful. Panelists discuss the misconception held by some that generative AI is merely another tool, rather than recognizing its substantial implications for artists' rights and livelihoods.


🔬 The Development and Impact of Glaze Protection

Ben Jiao details the inception of Glaze, a tool designed to protect artists' works from AI misuse, developed in collaboration with artists who provided insights into the unique needs of the art community. This tool was inspired by interactions with artists and realizing the potential harms AI posed to their works. The discussion covers the technical aspects of Glaze, how it was designed to confuse AI training processes, and the collaborative efforts behind its creation, including artist involvement in its design and functionality.


🌐 Introduction of Nightshade and Future Steps

The panel introduces Nightshade, a more aggressive approach to protect artists' works by actively poisoning AI data models. This tool is designed to corrupt AI training data in a way that misleads the AI's output, complicating the training process for future AI models. The discussion also touches on how the community and researchers can support the use of Glaze and Nightshade, emphasizing their roles in a broader strategy to combat AI's unauthorized use of artists' work.



💡Generative AI

Generative AI refers to artificial intelligence systems that can generate new content, such as text, images, or music, based on existing data sets. In the context of this video, generative AI technologies like MidJourney, DALL-E, and Stable Diffusion are discussed, particularly regarding their impact on artists and creative industries. The script highlights concerns that these technologies can produce works that mimic human creativity, potentially replacing human artists or violating their rights.

💡Create Don't Scrape

Create Don't Scrape' is a movement or advocacy highlighted in the video, emphasizing the ethical use of AI in creative processes. It advocates for the creation of original content rather than scraping existing content without permission to train AI models. This concept is central to the video's theme, addressing the misuse of artists' works and advocating for the protection of intellectual property in the age of AI.

💡Data scraping

Data scraping in the context of the video refers to the automated process of extracting large amounts of data from websites or other sources without permission. This practice is problematic for artists as their works, including images and artwork, can be scraped to train AI models, which then generate similar works, potentially undermining the original artists' copyright and reducing their control over their own creations.


Advocacy in this video involves actions or efforts to influence public policy and resource allocation decisions within political, economic, and social systems and institutions. The panelists discuss their roles in advocating for artists' rights and pushing for legal and ethical considerations in the deployment of generative AI technologies that impact creative industries.

💡Copyright Infringement

Copyright infringement occurs when a work protected by copyright law is used, reproduced, or distributed without authorization. In the video, concerns are raised about generative AI technologies creating derivative works from copyrighted content without permission, which can harm artists financially and undermine their creative rights.

💡Artistic Integrity

Artistic integrity refers to the notion of artists maintaining control over their creative processes and outputs. The video raises concerns about how generative AI might compromise this integrity by replicating and potentially altering artists' works without consent, thereby affecting the authenticity and originality of art.

💡Ethical AI

Ethical AI involves the development and use of AI technologies in a manner that respects human rights and values. The discussion in the video emphasizes the need for AI systems, like generative models, to operate within frameworks that ensure they do not exploit or harm individuals, particularly artists, by misusing their creative outputs.

💡Digital Rights

Digital rights are the rights of individuals to privacy, freedom of expression, and fair use of digital technology. The video touches on the need for stronger digital rights to protect artists against the unauthorized use of their work by AI systems, which can scrape vast amounts of data and artwork from the internet.


Litigation refers to the process of taking legal action against individuals or entities. In the video, the term is used to describe the legal battles involving artists and tech companies over the misuse of artistic content by AI to create derivative works, highlighting the ongoing legal efforts to address these injustices.

💡Public Awareness

Public awareness in the context of this video pertains to increasing the general population's understanding of issues surrounding generative AI and its impact on creative industries. The video emphasizes the role of public knowledge and support in advocating for policies that protect artists' rights against the potential negative impacts of AI technologies.


Mia Arahao introduces the panel on protecting artists from generative AI, addressing concerns about posting work online.

John Lamb shares his experience with generative AI's impact on artists and starts the #createdontscrape movement.

Ben Jiao discusses his background in AI security, his shift towards protecting creative works from misuse through AI.

Steven Zapata talks about the transformative impact of AI on creative careers and his advocacy against generative AI.

Carla Ortiz explains her involvement as a plaintiff in a class action lawsuit against companies using generative AI to exploit artists.

Panelists discuss the unique challenges of generative AI compared to other technologies and its invasive use of artists' works.

Ben Jiao elaborates on the development of Glaze, a tool designed to protect artists' works from being exploited by AI models.

Introduction of Nightshade, an AI tool developed to disrupt the training of AI models that misuse artists' works.

Carla Ortiz highlights the collaborative effort between artists and the University of Chicago team in creating protective AI tools.

Discussion on the significant community response and artist participation in user studies for developing AI protective tools.

Explanation of how Nightshade works to introduce 'poison' into AI training data, deterring unauthorized use of artists' works.

Panelists argue against the notion that generative AI is just another tool, emphasizing its fundamentally exploitative nature.

Future plans for Nightshade and Glaze enhancements to ensure ongoing protection against generative AI abuses.

Audience questions about how to discuss the harmful impacts of generative AI with those who view it positively.

Ben Jiao clarifies that Glaze and Nightshade are free tools, emphasizing the non-profit nature of their development and distribution.