Kasucast #25 - Stable Diffusion 3 2B Medium Training with kohya and SimpleTuner (full finetune/LoRA)

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25 Jul 202479:44

TLDRThe video provides an in-depth exploration of Stable Diffusion 3, discussing the controversy and community license updates surrounding it. The host shares their experience with various training tools, including Coo's SD scripts and SimpleTuner, comparing their effectiveness for fine-tuning the AI model. The summary highlights the challenges faced during training, the learning rate adjustments, and the surprising adherence of the model to the training data, raising concerns about potential copyright issues due to the model's high specificity.

Takeaways

  • 😀 The video discusses the Stable Diffusion 3 (SD3) model and the controversy around it, mentioning the community license update and the free commercial use stipulation for annual revenues under $1 million.
  • 🔍 The presenter was not part of the SD3 fine-tuning team due to lack of certain credentials or a large social media following, but still explored the model independently.
  • 🛠️ The presenter used public tools like Coo's SD scripts and SimpleTuner to experiment with SD3 training, sharing the process and settings used for transparency and reproducibility.
  • 🔄 There was an exploration of different training settings, including learning rates and optimizers, with the Prodigy Optimizer not yielding satisfactory results in initial tests.
  • 📈 The SimpleTuner tool was ultimately chosen for its effectiveness, offering both full fine-tuning and LoRA (Low-Rank Adaptation) training options.
  • 🤖 The presenter experienced challenges with Coo's SD scripts, including potential bugs and difficulties in achieving effective training with the Prodigy Optimizer.
  • 🔧 A detailed walkthrough of setting up the environment for training with SD scripts, including Python version management and dependency installation, was provided.
  • 📝 The importance of configuring the training environment correctly was emphasized, including setting up a virtual environment and installing necessary packages.
  • 🔬 The presenter conducted experiments with different learning rates and training configurations to find the optimal settings for SD3 model training.
  • 🎨 The results of the training were evaluated qualitatively, with a focus on style adherence and the ability of the model to generate images that matched the training data.
  • 🔮 The potential overfitting of the model to prompts rather than visual information was discussed, with tests to see how the model responded to variations in prompt detail.

Q & A

  • What is the controversy surrounding Stable Diffusion 3 (SD3) mentioned in the video?

    -The controversy around SD3 is not explicitly detailed in the script, but it mentions that the creator was not part of the SD3 fine-tuning team despite being recruited by Stability AI, possibly due to not meeting certain criteria such as having a large social media following or a proven track record.

  • Why was the video creator not part of the SD3 fine-tuning team?

    -The creator speculates that the reason for not being part of the SD3 fine-tuning team could be the lack of credentials, no proven track record, or not having a large social media following as a model creator or over 100k YouTube or Twitter followers.

  • What is the significance of the community license update regarding Stability AI models?

    -The community license update is significant because it stipulates free commercial use of the models for those with an annual revenue under $1 million US, which is similar to the revenue share structure of Unreal Engine. It also promises to improve the existing SD 3.2B medium model.

  • What tools does the video creator use to explore Stable Diffusion 3?

    -The creator uses tools such as Coo's SD scripts, SimpleTuner, and other public tools to explore SD3, as they were not part of the official fine-tuning team and had to rely on publicly available resources.

  • What is the role of SimpleTuner in the video?

    -SimpleTuner is a tool used by the creator for fine-tuning the Stable Diffusion 3 model. It was ultimately chosen because it gave the best results among the tools tested.

  • Why did the video creator decide to use SimpleTuner over other tools?

    -The creator chose SimpleTuner over other tools because it provided the best results in their experiments. It supports both full fine-tuning and LoRA training, and its repository is well-documented and user-friendly.

  • What are the potential issues with using Coo's SD scripts for SD3 training?

    -The creator experienced difficulties with Coo's SD scripts for SD3 training, such as the repository being experimental and possibly buggy. The learning rate settings were also challenging to finalize, leading to undertrained or overtrained models.

  • What is the importance of the learning rate in the training process?

    -The learning rate is crucial in the training process as it determines the step size during the optimization of the model. An inappropriate learning rate can lead to underfitting or overfitting, and the creator had to experiment with different rates to achieve satisfactory results.

  • What is the purpose of the 'multi-backend.json' file in the training setup?

    -The 'multi-backend.json' file is used to specify the configuration for the data set being used in the training. It includes information such as the data set ID, path names, and other considerations for processing the data.

  • How does the video creator approach testing the trained models?

    -The creator tests the trained models using Comfy UI, a tool that allows them to input prompts and generate images based on the trained models. They also perform qualitative experiments like grid tests and ablation studies to evaluate the style adherence and the effectiveness of the training.

Outlines

00:00

🤖 Introduction to Stable Diffusion 3 and Training Tools

The speaker begins by addressing the audience and discussing the recent developments in Stable Diffusion 3 (SD3). They clarify that despite being associated with Stability AI, they were not part of the SD3 fine-tuning team. The speaker intends to explore SD3 using publicly available tools, acknowledging the lack of credentials or a significant social media following as potential reasons for not being part of the core team. They also mention a community license update for Stability AI models and improvements to the existing SD 3.2b medium model. The speaker plans to use tools like Coo's SD scripts and Simple Tuner to train the model, sharing their settings and workflows on GitHub. They caution that training setups may change by the time the video is released and that they were unable to finalize the best training settings for Coo's SD scripts.

05:02

🔍 Exploring Training Tools and Initial Setup

The speaker delves into the exploration of various tools available for training SD3, including diffusers by Hugging Face, Simple Tuner by B Gea, and Coo's SD scripts. They discuss the availability of these tools and their features, such as support for full fine-tuning and low training. The speaker chose Simple Tuner for its superior results. They also mention the challenges faced with Coo's SD scripts, particularly with the Prodigy Optimizer. The speaker guides the audience through setting up the environment for Coo's SD scripts, including cloning the repository, setting up a virtual environment, and installing dependencies. They emphasize the importance of using the correct version of Python and CUDA for compatibility.

10:03

🛠️ Configuring Training Settings and Preparing Data

The speaker discusses the configuration settings for training SD3, highlighting changes made to the training setup, such as switching to SDPA from Transformers to save memory. They also experiment with multi-resolution noise and time step settings to improve image functionality. The speaker provides detailed instructions on setting up the environment, including creating necessary directories and files, and modifying the configuration file. They emphasize the importance of creating a metacap JSON file for dataset metadata and provide a step-by-step guide on how to generate this file using the merge_captions_to_metadata script.

15:03

🔧 Fine-Tuning SD3 with Coo's SD Scripts

The speaker provides a detailed walkthrough of using Coo's SD scripts for fine-tuning SD3. They discuss the differences between SD3 and SDXL training pipelines, emphasizing the need for a local pre-trained model. The speaker also addresses various settings, such as text encoder batch size and the use of T5 XXL D type. They highlight the importance of caching options for training to commence and discuss the limitations of the current SD3 training branch, such as the lack of support for visualizing results. The speaker also provides insights into the learning rate settings and the use of the Prodigy Optimizer, sharing their experiences and challenges encountered during the training process.

20:04

📈 Analyzing Training Results and Adjusting Strategies

The speaker analyzes the results of their training experiments with SD3, noting the undertraining issues despite using the Prodigy Optimizer. They discuss the potential reasons for this, such as an insufficient learning rate or issues with Coo's repository. The speaker then shifts to using the Adam Optimizer, adjusting the learning rate to 7.5 * 10^-6. They test the trained model using prompts from the dataset and observe the results, noting the lack of stylization and the need for further adjustments. The speaker also discusses the limitations of the current training setup and the challenges in achieving the desired results.

25:05

🔄 Experimenting with Learning Rates and Training Strategies

The speaker continues their experimentation with SD3 training, focusing on adjusting the learning rate and training strategies. They test different learning rates and observe the impact on the training results, noting the challenges in finding the optimal rate. The speaker also discusses the use of the Adam Optimizer and the need to warm up to a higher learning rate. They share their experiences with training using various settings and the results they obtained, highlighting the need for further experimentation and adjustments to achieve the desired level of stylization in the generated images.

30:09

🌐 Abandoning Coo's SD Scripts and Moving to Simple Tuner

Frustrated with the lack of success with Coo's experimental SD scripts, the speaker decides to abandon them and switch to Simple Tuner. They praise the well-documented nature of the Simple Tuner repository and guide the audience through the setup process, including cloning the repository, creating a virtual environment, and installing dependencies. The speaker also discusses the importance of setting up Weights and Biases and Hugging Face CLI login for tracking training progress and accessing models.

35:10

📚 Setting Up Configuration Files for Simple Tuner

The speaker provides a detailed guide on setting up the configuration files for Simple Tuner, explaining the need to create a multi-backend JSON file and modify various settings. They discuss the importance of setting the correct paths for the dataset, cache directories, and model outputs. The speaker also addresses the need to adjust the learning rate, batch size, and other training parameters to match the desired training outcomes. They emphasize the importance of careful configuration to ensure successful training with Simple Tuner.

40:12

🏁 Finalizing Training Setup and Testing Results

The speaker finalizes the training setup for Simple Tuner, discussing the need to adjust the learning rate, model name, and other parameters. They guide the audience through the process of starting the training and monitoring its progress. The speaker also addresses the challenges of converting the trained model into a format compatible with Comfy UI and shares a script to facilitate this process. They test the trained model using various prompts and observe the results, noting the need for further adjustments to achieve the desired style and quality in the generated images.

45:14

🔍 Exploring Different Prompts and Training Outcomes

The speaker explores the impact of different prompts on the training outcomes of SD3, testing various prompts to see how the model responds. They discuss the challenges of achieving a full-body view and the limitations of the current training setup. The speaker also experiments with short prompts and observes the results, noting the need for further adjustments to improve the model's performance. They emphasize the importance of testing and experimentation in refining the training process and achieving the desired results.

50:16

🎨 Testing Different Samplers and Qualitative Experiments

The speaker tests different samplers, such as the Comfy UI OD sampler, to see how they affect the training outcomes. They discuss the need for further documentation on how to use these samplers effectively. The speaker also conducts qualitative experiments to determine the best learning rate and caption dropout settings for achieving the desired style in the generated images. They share their findings and discuss the challenges of balancing prompt adherence and visual style in the training process.

55:18

🔄 Oblation Study and Lower Training with Simple Tuner

The speaker conducts an oblation study by removing certain layers and calculating new metrics to see the influence of removed layers on the training outcomes. They discuss the results and the potential overfitting of SD3 on prompts rather than visual information. The speaker also explores lower training with Simple Tuner, discussing the environment setup and the need to adjust the learning rate and other parameters. They provide a comparison between full fine-tuning and lower training, highlighting the differences in the results.

00:20

🏆 Conclusion and Future Updates

In conclusion, the speaker reflects on their experience with SD3 training, noting the challenges and the need for further refinement. They mention the good adherence to the dataset images but also the potential risks of overfitting. The speaker shares their plans to update their training settings on GitHub for reference and future use. They also discuss the upcoming 3.1 update to Stable Diffusion 3 and the potential impact on training. The speaker thanks the audience for watching and looks forward to future explorations in this area.

Mindmap

Keywords

💡Stable Diffusion 3

Stable Diffusion 3, often abbreviated as SD3, refers to a version of the generative AI model known for creating images from textual descriptions. In the video, the creator discusses the controversy and updates surrounding SD3, indicating its significance in the AI art community and the challenges faced during its development and use.

💡Fine-tuning

Fine-tuning is the process of training an already trained machine learning model with new data to adapt to a specific task or dataset. The script mentions the speaker was not part of the SD3 fine-tuning team and discusses the exploration of this process using public tools, which is central to the video's theme of adapting and experimenting with AI models.

💡Community License Update

A community license update refers to changes made to the terms of use or licensing agreements for a product or service, often to better serve or engage the user community. The script discusses an update regarding Stability AI models, indicating a shift that impacts how creators can use and commercialize their work based on the models.

💡Coo's SD scripts

Coo's SD scripts are a set of tools or scripts created by a community member named 'Coo' for training and working with SD (Stable Diffusion) models. The video script mentions the use of these scripts in the training process, highlighting their importance in customizing AI behavior for specific artistic outcomes.

💡SimpleTuner

SimpleTuner is another tool mentioned in the script used for training SD3 models. It is chosen by the video creator for its effectiveness in producing desired results, indicating its utility in the fine-tuning process and its role in enhancing the capabilities of AI models.

💡Full fine-tuning

Full fine-tuning is a training approach where the entire model is updated during the training process. The script contrasts this with Low-Rank (LoRA) training, where only a part of the model is updated. The video creator's preference for full fine-tuning suggests its potential for more comprehensive model adaptation.

💡LoRA

LoRA stands for Low-Rank Adaptation, a technique used in machine learning to adapt a pre-trained model to a new task by only updating a small portion of the model's parameters. The script discusses using LoRA in conjunction with SimpleTuner, indicating an exploration of different training methods for SD3 models.

💡Prodigy Optimizer

The Prodigy Optimizer is a specific type of optimization algorithm used in training machine learning models. The video script mentions using this optimizer in conjunction with Coo's SD scripts, suggesting its role in attempting to achieve better training outcomes for SD3 models.

💡Weights & Biases

Weights & Biases is a tool used for experiment tracking, visualization, and management of machine learning models. The script mentions using this tool to check the results of training runs, indicating its importance in monitoring the progress and effectiveness of the AI training process.

💡Comfy UI

Comfy UI is a user interface tool for working with AI models, allowing users to easily input prompts and generate images. The script discusses using Comfy UI to test the results of the trained models, demonstrating its utility in the practical application and testing phase of AI art generation.

💡Ablation Study

An ablation study is a research method used to understand the contribution of different parts of a system by temporarily removing them. In the context of the video, the creator performs an ablation study on the AI model by removing elements of the prompt to see how the style of the generated images changes, providing insights into the model's reliance on specific visual information versus textual prompts.

Highlights

Introduction to Stable Diffusion 3 and the controversy surrounding it.

The presenter was not part of the SD3 fine-tuning team due to lack of credentials or social media following.

Exploration of SD3 on personal time using public tools despite not being part of the official team.

Community license update for Stability AI models and the promise to improve the SD 3.2B medium model.

Stability AI now allows SD3 2B medium models to be uploaded to their website with certain restrictions.

Free commercial use of models under $1 million annual revenue, similar to Unreal Engine's revenue share structure.

Use of Coo's SD scripts and SimpleTuner in the training process.

The presenter's training settings and workflows will be available on GitHub.

Training repository options available to the public for SD3.

Diffusers by Hugging Face as the first training repository for SD3.2B medium.

Simple Tuner by B Gea as a widely available tool for SD3 training.

Coya's SD scripts as an experimental tool for SD3 fine-tuning.

One Trainer by Narar as another tool for SD3 fine-tuning with a unique setup process.

The presenter's approach to training SD3 using various tools and settings.

Issues with training stability and the need for the correct learning rate.

Experimentation with different learning rates and optimizers for SD3 training.

The challenges faced during the training process and the quest for optimal settings.

Abandonment of Coo's experimental SD scripts due to difficulties and lack of success.

Switching to Simple Tuner for full fine-tuning and achieving decent results.

The importance of using the correct model type and configuration for training SD3 with Simple Tuner.

The process of setting up the environment and configuration files for Simple Tuner.

Testing the trained model in Comfy UI and evaluating its performance.

Qualitative experiments and grids to determine the best style results from training.

Pseudo oblation study to understand the influence of removed layers or prompts on style adherence.

Comparison between full fine-tuning and LoRA training methods.

Environmental shots and the impact of training on the generation of environmental images.

Conclusion of the training process and the presenter's reflections on the experience.